Comments on: The Peacemongers by Ellen Burstyn http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/ where I'm a Rank Stranger Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:41:11 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: helenl http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7308 helenl Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:18:30 +0000 http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7308 No. Tommy. It sounds like "the same old same old" that hasn't worked in the past and won't now. Why not try something different? No. Tommy. It sounds like “the same old same old” that hasn’t worked in the past and won’t now. Why not try something different?

]]> By: tommyjoe http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7306 tommyjoe Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:04:07 +0000 http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7306 Helen: I'm a strong peaceMAKER. After all, Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (Matt. 5:9). I do think, however, that there is a time for war, and to me, it's not a "male thing." It's a spirit, and some men have it (but so do some women). When I think of the "severe side" of God (Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God . . .), it let's me know that sometimes there is a time for war, and God often uses nations to judge other nations. One day, God also will take vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Am I making sense? Helen: I’m a strong peaceMAKER. After all, Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (Matt. 5:9). I do think, however, that there is a time for war, and to me, it’s not a “male thing.” It’s a spirit, and some men have it (but so do some women). When I think of the “severe side” of God (Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God . . .), it let’s me know that sometimes there is a time for war, and God often uses nations to judge other nations. One day, God also will take vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Am I making sense?

]]> By: helenl http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7285 helenl Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:13:56 +0000 http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7285 Hi Catherine and Earthpal, I think both of you make good points. Sadly, by the time women have "fought" their way, they, too, do become aggresive. Too bad we can't figure out that "equality" doesn't mean everyone's now a man. Hi Catherine and Earthpal, I think both of you make good points. Sadly, by the time women have “fought” their way, they, too, do become aggresive. Too bad we can’t figure out that “equality” doesn’t mean everyone’s now a man.

]]> By: earthpal http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7280 earthpal Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:09:59 +0000 http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7280 Yes, isn't it ironic Helen that most atrocities... most acts of violence are carried out by men...that most wars are started by men and that only twelve women have won the nobel peace prize in it's history. If more women were involved at higher levels in peace talks, I believe there would be more effort to find peaceful solutions. Women tend to keep negotiations going in a dispute far past the point where men would be punching hell out of each other. But I wonder if,as Catherine also wonders, more women became leaders of nations there really would be less war. Is it not that women who reach such high levels of powers are just as ruthless, hawkish and aggressive as men, if not more so because of the extra 'fight' they need to apply to compete in such a male-dominated world of politicals? I would say that, generally speaking, women are much more naturally instinctive peace-makers and as such, I feel that they should certainly be more involved in global peace negotiations and should be given a louder voice in decisions where conflict is an issue. (I haven't time to read the article yet, Helen but it looks very interesting and inspirational. I will catch up with it later.) Yes, isn’t it ironic Helen that most atrocities… most acts of violence are carried out by men…that most wars are started by men and that only twelve women have won the nobel peace prize in it’s history.

If more women were involved at higher levels in peace talks, I believe there would be more effort to find peaceful solutions. Women tend to keep negotiations going in a dispute far past the point where men would be punching hell out of each other.

But I wonder if,as Catherine also wonders, more women became leaders of nations there really would be less war. Is it not that women who reach such high levels of powers are just as ruthless, hawkish and aggressive as men, if not more so because of the extra ‘fight’ they need to apply to compete in such a male-dominated world of politicals?

I would say that, generally speaking, women are much more naturally instinctive peace-makers and as such, I feel that they should certainly be more involved in global peace negotiations and should be given a louder voice in decisions where conflict is an issue.

(I haven’t time to read the article yet, Helen but it looks very interesting and inspirational. I will catch up with it later.)

]]> By: Catherine Morgan http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7279 Catherine Morgan Sat, 03 Mar 2007 06:05:09 +0000 http://helenl.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/the-peacemongers-by-ellen-burstyn/#comment-7279 Since I was a kid looking at the covers of TIME and other magazines that had pictures of the Vietnam war on them.....I remember thinking that if women were the leaders of the world, there would be no war. I was probably only about seven or eight, but it is a very strong memory, and one that even now I wonder if it really isn't true. If all leaders in the world were women, would there be any war, or would we figure out some other way to solve our problems? Since I was a kid looking at the covers of TIME and other magazines that had pictures of the Vietnam war on them…..I remember thinking that if women were the leaders of the world, there would be no war. I was probably only about seven or eight, but it is a very strong memory, and one that even now I wonder if it really isn’t true. If all leaders in the world were women, would there be any war, or would we figure out some other way to solve our problems?

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